Guy De Smet related discussions!!!

Maddy · 04 Noi 2006, 14:47

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2 dutch guys and a romanian is behind this , so think twice when you subscribe , you might get unpaid

) , as all the other romanians who got fooled by the notorious dutch guys ...

costyina_sweet · 04 Noi 2006, 15:06

do you pay 0.15 cents per minute independant of the sites that pay 0.25 or 0.30?and which "big"sites are included?xcam as well?islive as well?privecam as well?

05 Noi 2006, 06:01

Maddy scrie:2 dutch guys and a romanian is behind this , so think twice when you subscribe , you might get unpaid ) , as all the other romanians who got fooled by the notorious dutch guys ...

Maddy when you make derogatory statements please support them with more details; otherwise I will not approve this kind of messages. In the future I will not approve any message containing libel, since is impossible to judge who speck the truth. In our days a system can not survive if they plan such actions, this has remained only in our minds.
If a model doesn't respect her affiliate's rules, the affiliate has the right to apply those rules, to suspend the model or even not to pay her cut. This is the reason in maybe 99% of the cases. Then the model/studio feels the need to revenge and so on. This forum will not be used for personal vendettas.
Personally I find this CPS system very interesting, but currently I don't know too much things about it. I will try to talk more with CPS owner, and to bring some more relevant facts about it. Or maybe he will post here more details, if you ask him.

DrSmartAss · 05 Noi 2006, 06:36

Dear All,
The romanian behind this project is me.
The other 2 'dutch' guys are very respectable persons and I realy feel sorry about seeing these kind of acusations posted.
By the way... the 2 dutch guys are realy belgians.
The site is only posted for you to have all the detalies about the project and to subscribe.
I will try to answer in romanian aswell as in english to all your questions.
Respectfully, Alex

05 Noi 2006, 11:56

Could one of your friend be Guy de Smet ? becouse i received some e-mails about this site from him asking me to join CPS ( the same guy who rented xcam ( x"scam"

) accounts . The guy didnt paid hundreds of models . You make the connections here pls .

Regards !

05 Noi 2006, 13:10

respect scrie:Could one of your friend be Guy de Smet ? becouse i received some e-mails about this site from him asking me to join CPS ( the same guy who rented xcam ( x"scam" ) accounts . The guy didnt paid hundreds of models . You make the connections here pls .

Regards !

Hm, things becomes strange... as far as I know, Guy de Smet is the owner of CPS, I heard also some rumors, but can be confirmed? If anyone else has knowledge about this, please share it with us. But please keep this in mind, none of us can be 100% sure about what happened there. Other sites like ifriends for example are closing models accounts and forfeit their funds for good, for not respecting the rules or various other strange activities.
So how can we be sure about it, from my neutral position I can't judge this, I really don't have enough evidence, and I don't want to be involved this kind of situations.
I wait further to see how things will evolve on this matter....

nevermind · 05 Noi 2006, 14:20

http://www.adultvideochat.ro/forum_ro/about748.html

http://www.adultvideochat.ro/forum_ro/about2380.html

is up to you SadEyes if you want to post this or not...
yes, one guy behind is indeed Guy de Smet who has been in big conflict with mr smartass

after refusing payment of many models who have worked in cam2me, xcam, camigula, whatever... he has the guts now to try it again?

many of these models are members of this forum, they can confirm it
pay your debts mr de smet, and only then speak loud of your potential and honesty!

you have admit it in your emails sent to these models (not by realizing i suppose that you are guy de smet...now say it here also!)

costyina_sweet · 05 Noi 2006, 14:50

in one of our discusses, guy tell me that one great bonus (for renting acounts for xcams from him ) is to give me cps acounts...
but, for the moment, cps works only with 4 sites, all of them free to subscribe, and the reason for paying me only 15 eurocents instead of 40, 60 or 90 is not very clear to me right now...

CPS · 05 Noi 2006, 15:52

Dear Sad-Eyes,
Dear Cammers,
Dear Studio-managers,
Dear Site-owners,

When you would look up, on "whois" than you would find that
www.campoolsystem.com

is registered by Imperium Systems / Pay123 from Antwerp-Belgium.

Imperium Systems / Pay123 is a billing-company as you can find out on
www.pay123.com

Pay123 is a main partner in CPS bvba from Belgium.

CPS (campoolsystem) is an open structure system.

No strings with anybody, a totally new project,
rejecting nobody,
not laying any rules or exlusivity on anybody !

All payments are being done by an automatically generated tool
in the software and garanteed by Pay123 as well as CPS !

Any other assumptions or conclusions about involvement of persons
are ir-relivant and not of importance.

Everybody is welcome to join the system. Or not to.

So...questions related to the systems are very welcome,
and will be answered asap !

CPS-Admin

pskjust4ady · 05 Noi 2006, 15:57

Now as i am back from a long vacation and i see this.
All i can say about mr GUY DE SMET is that he is a scammer indeed. I talked to him , and he sent me to a girl from romania , and got from her an account on xcams.After a short perious had my own account and the person who had to pay me was GUY de smet. Months passed and didn't received my money, lucky that crossed my mind just to make a small amount , just the necesary to check if i receive them.And i didn't. Called at enjoy and the only answer i got was that i must talk to Guy and solve this problem with him because he is the one that should send me my money .In other words they did not care, and even if Guy scammed many girls he still worked for them .He didn't answered my emails or stuff , and i know i am not the only one. Lucky that my amount was not that big, but what about those girls who worked only on xcams, and after his scam got in deep s...t?
Unfortunately i erased all i saved , what i talked to him and the girl who worked 4 him, i thought they won't be necesary anymore because if enjoy team didn't found a solution there is nothing else to do.
Even if i had some serious discution with some people to work on xcams, i just don,t trust this website anymore.And about Guy De Smet there is nothing else to say that he is a big scammer, and if this website is his, my only advice is to take care.

Maddy · 05 Noi 2006, 18:13

Why should models subscribe on CBS and get 0.15 , when they can subscribe to all the sites of your platform themself and get all the money : 0.20 , 0.25 , 0.30 and so on , it is not so hard to stay with multiple IE pages opened and you get 100 % . Getting a little more than half the money is not a good compromise just for a little help ( single chat room ) . And how come you will deal with this : some sites are using Java technology , some are using Flash , some Firecracker , how will you join this sites togheter ? On www.cams.com the price per minute is 5 USD , will you give 0.15 also ?

. I am not trying to be rude , but the only sites from your platform will be extremely lower in traffic , that's why they accept the platform , i do not think real and good sites will let you ROB the models like this ...

05 Noi 2006, 20:33

I had a long discussion with Guy; I know the rumors that are around his person. Also I remember as well the dispute between him and DrSmartAss. I personally banned DrSmartAss at that time, for some things he did out here in the forum, I don't remember exactly why.

It is very difficult to find out the real story behind all these facts, and things might be different as presented till now. I know both versions, and both looks so credible.

Maybe Guy will have some time to share his version with us, or at least parts of the big story.

Now, the reason I approved this, is because it looks a very interesting system, which might help some models/studios. The price doesn't really matter so much, but as I understood, depending on the sites that join the system, prices might vary, in the future.

There will always be models that are not able to have results in big sites like ifriends, cams, and so on. If they will do, lets say 20-30-40 etc in this system or other system with small prices, for many of them this money are much better then doing 0 in big sites.

So this system might be good or even very good for some models/studios.
I think people were warned enough about the rumors, can we step further into this? Please...

pskjust4ady · 05 Noi 2006, 21:12

God i would love to have a chat with Guy.I have so many questions.And is hard to move on Sad, because is such a pitty to read thse posts , and after a while to hear girls complaining.And if mr Guy said that he didn't sent the money to the ones that broke the rules,there is nothing else to say.
I work in adult entertaiment for almoust 4 years and never , even when i was a begginer did not received even one warning from any website.Never had one account suspended, my biggest charge back was 5 $ on jasmin during one single year, worked on a studio for 2 years, learned and now i am working from home, i am not lazy, and the smallest amount earned on a perioud was 500$ for 2 or 3 days, and i only work on 2 websites.I tryied many websites but i stoped at 2 that i thought they will work 4 me, and worked only on them .I work at least 6 hours per day, 6 days per week.
So if mister Guy said that the performers that did not get the money broke any rules, i am sure that are many hosts just like me ,hardworking, that would love to have a chat with mr Guy face to face,just to ask him if he payed ony 0.10 to models, that was not enough, he just had to "forget " to send the payment right.
On my point of wiew any website that have mr Guy behind does not deserve any attention.
And yes, the ideea of this kind of website ,mentioned above is very nice, and would be great especialy for studio owners, but also for independant hosts .
Yes we have to move on , over what hapened before.
But SAD , i have a very good friend that worked with mr Guy help on xcams, and made a bigger amount, she worked only on his website, she did not listen to me when i said just to make some money and see if are payed.
Anyway ,is just my humble opinion and now am just very very sorry that i dont have aymore my discussion with mr Guy or the girl he hierd.
I like to say the truth ,does not matter to me what happens next.
PS: Please excuse my mistakes in writting .
Thanks a lot for letting me to write my oppinion

grumette40 · 05 Noi 2006, 22:37

I have worked for Guy in april 2005 and also in july 2005 as an independent model . Even if the procentage was big enough i have got my money on time boths periouds .
Anyway , can u tell us Guy witch r the sites we would work for on your new platform ? Thank u

06 Noi 2006, 04:26

Hi pskjust4ady,

Guy said like this, his company manager (Nadia), has stolen money from the company, when he found out about it, he fired her, and he refuses to pay all the models that were related to Nadia, at that time. So Nadia has started to flout his name, in front of those girls and on internet, like it was expected anyway.
I really believe that you and maybe other models did not do any mistakes on the site, it was a shitty situation.

I'm not here to defend Guy, I just want to point out that things might be different.

CPS · 06 Noi 2006, 08:23

Dear Sad-Eyes,
Dear Everyone,

The talk with Sad-Eyes (who after all, is a watching "eye" for all of you)
and a night sleep...

made me come to following conclusions which I want to state
in order to solve some apparently un-solved un-pleasant situations :

1. CPS (campoolsystem) has absolutely nothing to do with this !

CAN I ASK EVERYONE TO SEPERATE THESE ITEMS FROM EACHOTHER ?

2. On the other hand, it seems that some people slipped through
the cleaning-up, that I already did last summer :
where I contacted everyone who seemed not to be payed,
and payed after hearing them.
This story is way to complicated to repeat everything again.

Although I can mobilise way much more models who can
pollish up my person by talking highly of me,
(because of the things I have done for them)
than there are who can throw mud at me....

It is still my wish to do a second cleaning in this matter...
So, I invite all of those, to send me your story in a personnal message.

When your story is "TRUE" I will gladly pay you !
Cause than I ow you and is it only normal that you are to be payed !

Know, please that, if you are in this case,
that maybe I was also mis-informed, or just did not know !
A lot of shit happened !

NEVERTHELESS...POST THOSE PM's AND I WILL SOLVE ALL !

This promise I make before the moderator and before this community !

3. Yes, we are all here, in this business, for the money, correct !
Completely outside the other item, which I will solve with each
and everyone of you personally,
I want to emphasize the importance of the opportunity
that CPS brings you.

SO, ANY QUESTIONS ON CAMPOOLSYSTEM, PLEASE KEEP ON SHOOTING

We just wanna "shoot" new life, new punch, in the business we work in.

CPS will do so.

Last but not least :

When cleaning up a bad situation, one has to draw lines.
I appologise to all of you, who were left "behind" the line
in an unfair way.
Appologises NOT only with words, but after you posted me,
also with solving actions !

This to be able to re-draw the line and
to give us all the opportunity that CPS brings us !

Guy De Smet

justme · 06 Noi 2006, 12:06

Hello to everyone!!
I cannot belive what i just read
Now mr guy says this girl N stoled money from his company???????????
Guy you should be ashamed of what you said,i knew you were a liar,but meanwhile you beome nothing else but a BIGGER liar
People,do you know where the X_SCAMS money are???? In the CPS thing (that anyway it will not work). Just think about it....and you will see that i am right
I will NEVER do business again with a man that used to walk Frank's doggy OR with a SmartAss that walks Guy's doggy now
Sad,you say we must forget things and move along
First tell me....how can i forget the thousands of euros that guy didnt pay me???I think anyone in my situation cannot do it
And second...i ASSURE you that CPS will never work,guy has no more money to make it work
I hope this messege gets aproved
And guy...i expect your HUMBLE APOLOGIZES

grumette40 · 06 Noi 2006, 12:17

I wanna rectifie what i have said earlier . The money i have received from my work on xcam were paied by Nadia . I thought that Guy was the one who has sent her the money to pay the models ( thats why i have said that Guy paied me ) , but it appears that Nadia payed from her own pocket . The story is longer that i thought . I no longer belive in Guy like the most people on this forum and his try to denigrate Nadia even if he owns her lots of money makes me seak .

grumette40 · 06 Noi 2006, 12:29

I hope Nadia doesn,t mind me saying this on the forum , but maybe u want to tell us Guy about the thing that Nadia sued u and the fact that she is affraid to not recover the money u own her . Nadia has real proves of the money u own her , unfortunelly u might have been really smart to make the money dissapear .

SublimeStudio · 06 Noi 2006, 13:35

im a manager of a studio from bucharest i work whit guy de smet until now i wait as well to recive the money and pay my models,i talk whit him his a nice guy,and i hope the new cps work good:),i will tell you if i recive my money,and i belive this story whit this employ of him because if him dont pay the models him lose,why?because if not pay the model or studio guy the smet will lose them,if him pay all models and studio are work and make money and all are winning,i understant as well guy de smet if give some one acounts and make 800 minutes normaly him take back the acount,and what money can send for that model??:)))) is more the wire transfer.so will see what happent and i will tell u.have a nice day ciao ciao

Edi74 · 06 Noi 2006, 13:37

i see that u don't believe what the models says..Those models who wasn't payd are many and all over the country.They wasn't payd from february..march and april(2006).do u think that those girls worked till that time withought to make any mistakes on the site and from february 60 girls broke the rules??? this i understand after Guy said that he didn't paid the girls who broked the rules.
I was a studio who was nearly to not see the money from febr and march but with hard i tooked my money from him.
As somebody sayd before i spoked at the phone with Franc V(owner of Enjoy) and i got the same answord:" Fix the problems with Guy....he have to pay u.."
Let me say u something more...
In the same time when he didn't payd us he fraud his partener from Enjoy and Camigula (Peter)..He can confirme that.I got his yahoo adress if u want to check that out.
Another interesting questinon:He broke the rules too??
I see that nobody dare to post here the real proves that Guy LIED us but them exists i got them and are alots..
I wish i could post them here to see all the ppl the truth but i don't now from where to start.
Btw....Nadia couldn't steeal the money from xcam beacuse we received the money directly from: Digifix BVBA,DE Nayerstraat,51-53 B....(guy adress bank)...
If u wanna see more i can send u in your email all the proves..that i need to see clear how much he lied.
I didn't want to involve in this anymore but i don't want this Guy to full us more than he did.
For all the models and studios: Work in serious and old sites and run from this kind of peoples like Guy De Smet and company.
Wish u all the best and God protect us from peoples like Guy.

sugar · 06 Noi 2006, 13:56

Dear Guy,

Is it true?
Did you have a conversation with SadEyes saying that i have stolen money from your company?

2 weeks ago you sent me sms asking me to talk to you... "cps will be a hit to hit back at all those who harmed us! At least listen to what the offer is"

Well it was my decision not to listen... i prefered not to reply to you!
If i want no contact with you, why do you use my name in here and do not leave me alone???

You say you paid your collaborators?
Don't forget most of them are registered on this forum and can say the truth, that they begged many months to get their money....and still are not paid....

So, yes, the 2 stories xcam (or x-scam) and cps are connected...because the payment will be done by the same person....

Why you give all these people false information that i have stolen money from your company? Are you that desperate to win credibility and need to discredit someone elese?

Now, dear SadEyes,
I do not find it very objective from you to use my name in this forum connected to "thief"...

You are almost breaking your own rules, about people privacy and personal info. I have never given my real name in this forum, if i want to do this, let it be my own decision, please.

I know you are not a detective, but since you are involved in this matter and have posted things you are not aware of, please contact me in order to put at your disposal documents that prove that Guy has debts to me, not the other way around -- legal documents, not just talks ... i leave the talking to Guy, he is very good in it...

If cps will work or not, is not of my concern....people have been warned of who's behind it! Discuss it and try it as long as you want, at your own risk... but leave my name out if this!