The importance of abbreviations in video chat

[Libertina]

Over the time I said many times that using abbreviations in chat text it`s not optimal.With this article
I will try to develop a little this topic to explain the reasons that lead to this affirmation.

I will also use this topic to define an exhaustive list of these abbreviations, as well I will wait arguments with your experiences related to the activity in free or private chat.

I will add a personal opinion too. The predominant audio conversation, combined with some quality texting, will bring us more longterm benefits, but we will try to develop this subject as an independent topic.

Arguments PRO using complete versions of words ( no abbreviations) :


- The missing of the abbreviations helps the Model, in time, to deepen and aquire also the foreign language used in comunication with the existing clients or with the potential clients, as the native language, by extending the words area from her own vocabulary.

- It maximize the chances to be understood by as many clients possible, no matter what their social statute, education, culture or location is.

- The chances to attract clients with more money are bigger because an educated man appreciate more an elavated language that shows intelligence. Also, in many cases, a man with a poor education will appreciate a video chat model with an extended vocabulary because it excites him. The fetish with a teacher, or with any other job, occupation or expression, that gives the impression or the certainty of intelligence to a male costumer, is one of the most common in entire world.

- An elevated language enforce respect in real life, but also in the virtual one.

- The correct expression, with no abbreviations, lead to a higher level of quality of translation softwares ( Google Translate or similar applications.)

- After some years of adult or non-adult videochat activity, the informations accumulated in this job can be very useful in other different activities. Jobs which are based on human management, comunication, translating texts in a foreign language and so on.

- In the free chat, the number of the stressing guests will reduce significantly.

- The personal satisfation for developing your own mental evolution.


Arguments AGAINST :



- The doct and semidoct language often causes headaches and dizziness, in a very representative segment of the romanian society.

- There are very educated clients and visitors that really appreciate the innocence of the youth, Their fantasies include also the possiblity of having real or virtual sex with less trained in comunication ladies and gentlemen. The Eminescian genius exemplify this aspect of the human side in the poem "Luceafarul"

- The information spreads faster when abbreviations are used.

The opinions of adultvideochat.ro users are very important to develop and exemplify these affirmations.

[andromaca_mulge_vaca]

with or without abreviations it's all about the member after all.

the member is the one who is initiating the conversation so it's obviously we MUST answer him back following HIS style, just to make him comfortable and make him stay.

a professor and a rapper will never use the same language and we never know who is behind the lines but i guess this must be our primary talent : to make the correct appreciations about who he can be and make them very fast.

[SAD^^EYES]

Thank you Libertina, welcome to adultvideochat.ro forum

[Libertina]

It is my pleasure to practice my english,otherwise I will totally forget it. Thank you !

[LolaHighClass]

This is a very good subject.

In my opinion - the use of abbreviations appeared due to the lack of patience in some cases (when a big amount of information is needed fast - commonly used in Scientific Development) or sometimes due to the lack of education (in such case there is the pattern that made the younger generations develop their own language). Moreover there are other regards that influence the use of abbreviations, but these two are the most obvious in the current society.

I believe that we should not use abbreviations if there is no need for us to use them (in this domain - we need to prolong our conversations and not shorten them). From my own experience I can state the fact that any member who will enter your room, can be taught or leaded into making his presence a more intriguing one, by using English as it needs to be used. A lot of them will correct themselves when they will see the proper approach on your end.

I also like teaching my models not to use the "words": bb, luv, hun etc. These kind of words create a cold member - model relationship, thus the members will never develop any particular feelings towards the model, therefore we will only have sex based clients who will for sure pass to another model and so on. In the current situation (and I am reffering to the actual state of economy, pshycological state and so on) the need for feelings and affection has gradually and constantly increased. This is of great benefit to the models, althought not everyone can process this particular advantage that influences the relationship between the model and the member on a deeper level.

They feel they are respected, they feel they receive a great deal of importance, thus they will try to level up themselves on your own level, a higher, more "seductive" one.

English has its own words and expressions that, when used properly, can unlock the heart of a man. Make use of them wisely and try to level up your English. This will make your sessions more profitable.

[Libertina]

This is very true, but there are too many models that think chatting is ok if they say all day hi bb hru pvt?
Of course, this can be a good thing for other models, models that know how to use the words,because they can make the difference !And there are many models that don`t know how to talk in their own language, what can I say about a foreign language? In my opinion, a real good model can turn on a man even without a webcam...talking can be sexy, even if behind the screen is a rapper, or any other men !

[LolaHighClass]

Of course, let's remember the old hot line. How could you even say "hi bb, hru? pvt" on the phone?
It is kind of impossible to say that out loud. I remember there is a commercial with this kind of abbreviated words, but I cannot remember which one.

And let us not forget there are still some sites like Niteflirt - that make use of the phone, more than they make use of the camera. This should make us see beyond the idea of "I have a babydoll face, I should have many privates." - because in the present and in the near future this will change completely. The members will become more and more focused on the idea of psychological and emotional satisfaction. Sexual satisfaction will come only after the first two reach a higher level.

[SAD^^EYES]

To the pro arguments using shortcuts I would add that some category of people might see the Model as an arrogant person if she/he use too much of a docent vocabulary. In my mind is more about how you use the words to make the visitor or customer feel similar like in the real world.

Let's start to create a list of the shortcuts that are most used in video chat activity:

k = ok
lol = laughing out loud
brb = be right back
thx, 10x = thanks
bb = baby
pvt = private show
gtg = got to go
hru? = how are you?
4u = for you

Cod: Selectaţi tot

:), :-) = happy
:(, :-( = sad

>:-) = evil happy

A complete list of shortcuts used in chats you can find here:
http://www.disabled-world.com/communica ... rtcuts.php

Don't hesitate to add to this topic those shortcuts you consider important.

Best regards, Ionut

[AlexandraGeorgia]

First of all I must state that I am totally AGAINST using this kind of abbreviations. I am working on a niche where you can`t stand out without a proper English, both spoken and written, I cannot save the day by flopping my ass or boobs, so I had to improve my foreign language skills to the maximum. A few years ago I decided to give up any sort of abbreviations - both in my native language and the other foreign languages I fluently speak, both in my virtual job life and my daily chat with friends. I find it a proof of respect, for the person I chat with, and for myself also - I am much more than hi bb, hru, pvt.

I almost tend to throw up when I see chat hosts who work in the industry for several years now, but never managed to improve, and they are still stuck with hi bb, hru, especially those claiming to be the mother fucker Goddess. Bitch, please ... !

All the guys I chat with, most of them English native speakers honestly admire my English skills, a good conversation, a personal talk, a funny and clever joke, or a word game would always be appreciated. In my case, it was what set me out of the league, a big plus to the image I created and of course a big plus for my revenues.
But money is just money, the biggest plus I feel it`s the one related to my personal evolution, when I first started this, my English was somehow limited to Hello, How are you, etc. Now when I travel and I meet native English speakers they all compliment me and they ask me where I have learned such a fluent English.
I just blush and think to myself : Oh, you don't want to know !

In addition to that, I would give you my favorite saying : I don`t judge people based on their race, religion or look, I judge them based on grammar and proper spelling. I tend to do that quite often, sometimes taken to the extreme, I am quite a grammar nazi - if someone misspells or makes several grammar mistakes, he does not stand a chance, especially if it`s his native language.

It`s quite wrong saying that proper English would make the chat sound too official. Abbreviations make it look cheap, kitsch and standard cold, nothing personal - as all the guys you are chatting to get to be called BB, Hun, darling, whatever.

The more that I am against those abbreviations, the strongly I plead for the use of slang. You could easily improve your English skills, and make your conversations more fun and personal using your own expressions, your own jokes, your own sayings. Use online grammar checker, and urban dictionaries, there are dozen of them available out there for free.

Break a leg !

[SAD^^EYES]

Thank you for sharing your mind BrattyPrincess. Personally I'm trying not to judge too much based on grammar, especially that I see myself as an uneducated person in terms of school education, me I am more into the type of message that is transmitted by my interlocutor. I saw many cases when an illiterate individual has higher ethics in comparison with someone that has two universities, knows five languages but his morals are very questionable. Just my two cents, thanks again.

Kind regards, Ionut

[GlamChatStudio]

Bratty, you are only part right. I am not an educated person, I don't have a college diploma, I did not learn english in school, n'or I had the time to take my english to perfection, grammatically speaking. Still, I have never used abbreviations. Even if, over the years, I must have written stupid things or grammatically inccorect, I have always used the complete form of words, not because I respect the member but because the clock is ticking and the time just flies faster when you write more.
You don't see things from the "free chat sites" host's point of view so to speak. When you have 7 John Doe's in your free chat, it is pretty hard to type to all of them without using abbreviations. Adding to that, it seems like more and more of them are going dumb "by the minute", using all sorts of abbreviations. An example would be that unbearable and obsessive "bb" or that "hru?" instead of "how are you?". I have noticed even the big spenders to use abbreviations.
I, personally, do not agree with this practice on sites like ifriends or camcontacts. On the other hand, on jasmin, trying not to use abbreviations is not a good idea. The amount of time that you take to write a whole perfectly written sentence to one member might cause you loose other 5 ones.
When you think about it, the highest percentage of members do not come to see girls who speak and write english close to perfection ( on the usual categories that is ), they come here for sex and they do not give a damn about how good the model speaks english.
From my experience I can tell you I have never had any problems to communicate with members and keep them in my room even though my english was not good at that time. It counts a lot how much that man likes you as a person and how you relate to him.
As far as judging someone on grammar criterions only, I think you are a bit wrong. You ( and now I am generalizing not pointing any fingers) may speak a perfect english but that tends to fade away if you are nothing as a person, character, morality, honesty.
Over the years I have had girls who spoke perfect english but they were lazy, stubborn and full of themselves. Now they are history... I have also seen models who could barely say "hi!", but they made lots of money even with a minimum of english.
Charisma, in videochat, does a lot. It is not all about a perfect english although mastering it, it is an obvious plus.

I hope you won't judge me too harsh!

[AlexandraGeorgia]

Dear Ionut and Poca, I will answer for both within the same lines, as you both somehow corrected me in the same direction. I think I have not generalized at all, I said was referring to my case and my niche/category, where good English is a must.
They do come up for the good quality conversation, for the arousal of well spoken words who push the right buttons at the right time. Of course the niche is damn full of bimbos who can barely speak their native language and still survive around with a few clichee lines that they learned by heart - but they will never stand out, that`s for sure.
Of course this does not apply to LiveJasmin rush hours when every second is critical :shock:
I do not work on LiveJasmin and never will, but that`s another story.
As for CamContacts, I think that`s where Poca agreed with me, well, let me not agree. Most of the top earning models, within the Glamour section are those already famous by now russian girls from Tver studio, who can barely type hru - pvt, needless to ask them about the difference between your or you`re - but they rank among the best hosts on the site because of the great show they put up for members. That`s why I stated - not so clear, it seems - that I was referring to my case.

As for the education, literally speaking, it`s not what I was pointing at - we are not talking about college degrees here, but self education. What they teach you at school is usually crap anyway, but what you learn yourself is the most important, and one should always keep learning and improving no matter it`s a foreign language, promotion skills or anything that helps that person develop.

On the other hand, when I said I judge people on that criteria, I can`t remember claiming that`s the best thing to do, neither I encouraged anyone to do that. I personally know it`s somehow wrong, but I just can`t help it ! I really can`t.
I remember when I first met Ionut in september, I was somehow shocked of myself, it was the first person to whom I did not lose my interest in a conversation after making two concomitant disagreements between subject and predicate. I even said it later out loud, but I guess it did not came up to his ears - someone did not passed the message. :roll:
So my "rules" have some exceptions when the person who I talk to is interesting enough and the message gets where it has to, Ionut, don`t worry. Besides that, in the same first conversation we had, he came up saying quite modest that his vocabulary is not that rich and he often does mistakes - these were his exact words. My real problem is with ignorant douche bags who often correct people around and call them :
anagramați instead of agramați. I think you all got the picture here, no need to insist.

[SAD^^EYES]

Hi BrattyPrincess, thanks for your kind words, from my point of view as long as you feel good and FREE with who you are... no regrets.. that's more important, in the rest is just knowledge share. Me I become for normal people more or less like a "freak of nature" and I have no problems with that.. I tried as much as possible to share my truth, but people around me always looked with funny eyes so I had to shut down myself.. but that meant a lot of inner STRESS and so on.. This year finally I was able to break the CAGE and that was beautiful for me.. but again... for people around me was horror days The only difference now is that I won't try anymore to shut down my mind... but instead to create a new place where I can fully share my mind..
What you should know about me is that I'm very indulgent with people, but I am not stupid, I do this because is the best solution for me... living with bipolar disorder is not easy, it never was... but somehow it seems I am able day by day to control it in a positive way, to use my disorder for creation and not for self destruction.

Is not easy to remember a lot of small details that 96% of people from this planet usually forget the next day.. me I can't forget, is just the illusion that I forgotten... and even if I manage to do it.. my brain somehow restore the memories.. both positive and negative ones..

What I can tell you more is that I adore this blog: http://diacritica.wordpress.com/ without people like you, the other people like me will never evolve, will never learn.. is more about trying to find a diplomatic way, an artistic way to share the knowledge, not a way that will make people suffer emotionally. It's kind of hard task to do that, especially in the virtual world.. but in the real world is not as hard as it seems. We need critics, we need artists, we need haters, we need ignorance and superficiality... we are all beautiful in our own way.

There are just 4% on this planet that can really really understand me, but 4% out of 7 billions are many is just a matter to find a few of these people and also to be able to let something behind me... I have the energy for that... not sure about the health but is getting better day by day

When you meet me first time I was in controlled hyper-mania state, I just hope I didn't shocked you too much...

Kind regards, Ionut

[AlexandraGeorgia]

That's exactly what I admired about you that day, the modesty and courage to admit that you do mistakes. I do mistakes, everyone does, but to admit that with a smile on your face and the will to work on it - it's priceless. And a guy who got to the level that you are, could easily fall into the temptation of being a proud jerk. I know a few... !
I wish you best of luck with the bipolar disorder, keep it to the positive side, otherway self destruction is just around the corner. Surround yourself with people who are aware of your problem and understand it very well, people who wont bring more negative thoughts.
Bipolars are special people, they still can find maximum of joy and enthusiasm in simple little things, where normal people see nothing, therefore if they lose control they become vulnerable, easily to deceive. Every emotion is amplified ten times, unfortunatly the negatives also.
Take care !

[SAD^^EYES]

Thanks well I will always try to keep myself positive and modest.. I won't be modest with the Death itself, when the time comes I will tell "her".. "Hello my darling, I am here to offer you a white robe and a red rose"