Setari de Lumina/Lighting Setup

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Mesajde ChristianPaprika » 26 Dec 2006, 16:33


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Maybe the results is okay. But is not a really good solution for good lighting.
The camera is front, and You lighting form above. The best ballanced light,
is a 70% front and 30% back light. Yes, You are right, I see You have a back
light. Is necessary to kill the shadows, and giving more contur the model.

The too strong light whats come from above the model head, is can create
shadows under the eyes, under the face and under the pussy or ass :cry: !!

If you are a big studio, and is worth for You to give the best. Im always
ready to travel, and fixing studios. Nomater where, Ro, Cz, Sk, Hu, Ru.
Im a professional photographer, and I know how and what the camera
see, and what is the best way to set-up your studios, and create the best
enviroment for work.
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Dorian scrie:Montez pentru studiouri cat si pentru modele independente INSTALATIE PROFESIONALA DE LUMINI.



Schema este conceputa de un site celebru de videochat.
Adaptarile pe care le-am facut au fost doar in ceea ce priveste materialele(existente la noi) si dimensiunile spatiului folosit.



Cu totii cunoastem importanta unei lumini bune.

Aceasta schema rezolva total aceasta problema.

Instalatia este usor de demontat in caz de nevoie.Sunt folosite corpuri de iluminat de cea mai buna calitate, marca Philips, clasa de energie A.Sunt respectate 100% balansul de lumina alba cu lumina calda.


Pozele urmatoare reprezinta o astfel de instalatie(lipseste un corp de iluminat).

Imagine



Imagine


Pot fi gasite pe forum materiale despre acest subiect, aveti si aceste poze ca exemplu.
Trebuie insa sa retineti ca schema pe care o ofer, respecta 100% dimensiunile si balansul de lumina alba cu lumina calda din schema originala.Tuburile cu lumina calda sunt deasemeni marca Philips(clasa A) si sunt aduse la comanda.

Studiourile si modelele independente interesate de aceasta INSTALATIE DE LUMINI PROFESIONALA ma pot contacta pe una din variantele de PM din profil.
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Mesajde gica_care_este » 28 Dec 2006, 16:03

Would be nice to see your setup!
Maybe you can create it in your studio and take some snapshots of it?
Keep in mind to use regular lighting and not professional tools as very few people, if any, would get anything but regular light bulbs or neon light.
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Mesajde videochat_father » 28 Dec 2006, 23:01

cu toate ca trebuia pus in alt topic acest link, deoarece e un topic in categoria reclama....(a cuiva),..... trebuie sa vedeti ce inseamna cu adevarat sistem de lumini profesional, chiar dedicat si folosit in activitatii de videochat de catre un model de top de pe un site de top.


http://www.myifriends.net/general/acw.h ... page1.html
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Mesajde ChristianPaprika » 29 Dec 2006, 08:52

Imagine

Here it is a simple & low budget solution. 2 armatur with 2 long neontubes (cool white)
what is create the front light as a keylight & mainlight, & above the photographer head
1 armatur with a 2 neontubes, (this is gonna be behing the model) what is creating
the backlight, to give a more contur & dimension.


This is just a simple example from our studio, what is engeenered by Me, keep it the
low budget and high quality ratio.


gica_care_este scrie:Would be nice to see your setup!
Maybe you can create it in your studio and take some snapshots of it?
Keep in mind to use regular lighting and not professional tools as very few people, if any, would get anything but regular light bulbs or neon light.
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Mesajde ChristianPaprika » 29 Dec 2006, 09:04

Amanda guide, prefer the halogen lighting. Sure the halogen lighting give a much more
light power (Lumen), but is cost a lot of electricity, & giving so many heat. Also they like
to advice because of the much warm image. BUT. We need cold light, cold image more
as posible. Because is just easy to set-up in your cam. And give more warmness to
the image in to the capture software. And cold light create much more sharpness
and contrast.


videochat_father scrie:cu toate ca trebuia pus in alt topic acest link, deoarece e un topic in categoria reclama....(a cuiva),..... trebuie sa vedeti ce inseamna cu adevarat sistem de lumini profesional, chiar dedicat si folosit in activitatii de videochat de catre un model de top de pe un site de top.


http://www.myifriends.net/general/acw.h ... page1.html
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Mesajde ChristianPaprika » 29 Dec 2006, 13:12

I told U. Where I am standing with My camera, above Me in the plafoon.
Where I am standing there is a blue curtain, U dodn't see because
I just pull side by side to capture this studio.


gica_care_este scrie:Yes Paprika... looks very nice and clean.. but where is the backlight in the photo with the neon light? Where would u place it?
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Mesajde ContSters2 » 29 Dec 2006, 18:28

A real class act:) Profesional, simple,so far the best room i ever seen,i wish i had that oportunity to work with u Christian but who knows in the future? Hands down or better hat down:)
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Mesajde SAD^^EYES » 29 Dec 2006, 21:36

Thanks Christian for your advices. I think Dorian was inspired from the lighting setup, recommended by DirectSex, a site well known in video chat world for the quality of the video feeds they provide. Anyway I am not sure that this setup is presented well by Dorian in those pics, so that why I posted here again, maybe we can have a second opinion from you. I (and the company I work for) used also a similar setup in the last 2 years and I'm very pleased with the results. I'm not a professional photographer, but when I spent some time playing around with this setup, I got some astonishing results. The cost for this setup is under 100$ in Romania.


Eu in general m-am bazat in ultimii 2 ani pe tehnica recomandata de cei de la DirectSex. Nu sunt fotograf profesionist dar m-am jucat mult cu setarea asta si derivatii ale acestei setari si am fost super multumit de rezultate.

Schema e asta, iar distantele prezentate aici, pot fi diferinte in functie de spatiu, etc... Detaliile sunt chiar in schema si in explicatiile celor de la DS.

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Imagine

Un exemplu de studio, care foloseste setarile de mai sus - in vremea cand firma noastra colabora cu DS, era studioul care transmitea cea mai buna calitate la imagine.(in opinia mea bineinteles)

Imagine

Schema vine cu aceste precizari:

- Three individual fluroescent lights each with two tubes.
- Each tube has differend light color! This is combination of while daylight tubes and yellow color tubes
- If only daylight color is used, than final picture turns into blue color. If yellow (regular) color tubes are used, than picutre turns into red.
- Try more combinations of differend tubes (colors and WATTS). Correct tuneup makes big difference in final picture
- You can use set of filters on camera which may help you move color temperature to correct values. More about filters...
- Make lighting adjustable, in terms of power and distance. Makes big difference to move lights closer to model.

When you buy a light bulb, particularly a fluorescent bulb, you may find a number on the bulb description. For example: 13W/2700. The 2700 refers to the color temperature. Often, the same bulb is available in two or three different color temperatures: 13W/2700, 13W/3500, 13W/4000.
Light sources with a mid-range color temperature (3500K to 4000K) have a neutral or white appearance. The light is more balanced in its color wavelengths.


Linkuri utile:
Filtre
http://www.tiffen.com/camera_filters.ht ... %20Filters

Articole despre temperatura culorii:
http://www.topbulb.com/find/home_understanding.asp
http://www.goodmart.com/facts/light_bul ... ature.aspx


Setarea nu costa mai mult de 100$ in Romania si rezultatele sunt uimitoare, se mai pierde putin timp de surubarit la distanta intre lumini si model si la setarile de camera. Asta pentru cine vrea imagine de vis. Eu unul le-am sucit pe toate partile pana am fost multumit 100%.

Bafta acolo.
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Mesajde BestStudio » 29 Dec 2006, 22:07

Here is what i think that is fine covers all the angles:
Imagine

Imagine

Imagine

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I and also i think that in the setup showed by Mr.Paprika dont allow to the owner to offer to the model an interior decoration on the background also from what i see none can walk around the model or reach to it if he has a technical problem who cant be solved tru radmin.

Its only a point of view and i dont want to be rude in anyway. Anyway is a great setup that one to.


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Mesajde ChristianPaprika » 30 Dec 2006, 16:37

Above My little intro, is a really low bug-get studio. What is was set-up fast and simple.
Ofcourse, I can 'engeneer' a hi-class of studio, with a TOP quality what is posible.
Sure, I gonna use 3CCD broadcast HDV, and professional quality FireWire video card,
special light-banks in soft box, chesterfield furnitures, light effect in the back, little
fountain or watterfall in the side of the model. :D Wuhahaha ;)



isabelle scrie:A real class act:) Profesional, simple,so far the best room i ever seen,i wish i had that oportunity to work with u Christian but who knows in the future? Hands down or better hat down:)
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Mesajde ChristianPaprika » 30 Dec 2006, 16:49

Super fine! Congratulation. Your studio is really good. I love it. Our studios, don't
need too many spaces around. Because if some technical problem come, the model
easy can go some of the other 14 studio, till the technician repair her studio problem.
About the decoration. We had decorated the studios. But after the last big repair,
We made a decision to make plain one color chat-studios. Now We are close to the new,
big repair time. Sure We going to make again some new.

What I wanna tell You Mr.Best, I am proud, front of the Video Chat Scene, We have
manager team who care so much as You are doing! Keep your energy and cares.
Kind Regards from Amsterdam, and the best wishes for 2007!!!


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BestStudio scrie:Here is what i think that is fine covers all the angles:

I and also i think that in the setup showed by Mr.Paprika dont allow to the owner to offer to the model an interior decoration on the background also from what i see none can walk around the model or reach to it if he has a technical problem who cant be solved tru radmin.

Its only a point of view and i dont want to be rude in anyway. Anyway is a great setup that one to.


Kind Regards,
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Mesajde BestStudio » 30 Dec 2006, 19:50

Thank you for your consideration Mr.Cristian.

Kind Regards,

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Mesajde Dorian » 01 Ian 2007, 21:19

Imagine



Mr.Christian Paprika, this picture is for you.
I come tomorrow with some comments.
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Mesajde ChristianPaprika » 01 Ian 2007, 22:55

Dorian, I see You got there Disney. Nice clean studio.
But whats that aluminium box front below the monitor?


Dorian scrie:Mr.Christian Paprika, this picture is for you.
I come tomorrow with some comments.
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Mesajde Dorian » 02 Ian 2007, 12:39

ChristianPaprika scrie:But whats that aluminium box front below the monitor?


Hello, and happy new year, first.

It's simple, in that aluminium box is front light.
Three fluorescent tube.2 daylight tube and 1 white light.
This box lead the light in front, help the model to see good on the monitor screen and don't let the light to create problem for image quality(you see camcorder is situated up on this box).

Principiul folosit la crearea acestei carcase este tocmai cel al unei lumini profesionale.Conceputa din tabla de aluminiu, pentru a beneficia de o buna reflexie a luminii, aceasta cutie(carcasa) are rolul de a directiona sursa de lumina spre in fata, a nu lasa ca aceasta sa fie difuzata in toata incaperea.
In acest fel putem spune ca peste 90% din fluxul luminos degajat de cele 3 lampi fluorescente(2 cu lumina calda si 1 cu lumina rece) este directionat spre model.
Lumina ce o degaja cele trei lampi fara aceasta carcasa, prin nedirectionarea acesteia, deranjeaza modelul si reduce vizibilitatea asupra monitorului.Carcasa prezentata reduce acest impediment.
Deasemena cu aceasta carcasa lumina degajata nu produce acea "perdea" de lumina in fata obiectivului camerei, care, dupa cum se vede este situat deasupra.
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Mesajde delishia20 » 06 Ian 2007, 16:48

hi!
i have a question 4 dorian if you'd be kind to answear,where can i find a box like the one in your picture?? this ideea sounds pretty cool and i'd like to test it:)
thx 4 listening!
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Mesajde Dorian » 07 Ian 2007, 10:13

delishia20 scrie:where can i find a box like the one in your picture?? this ideea sounds pretty cool and i'd like to test it


The box on the picture is made by me.


Daca esti interesata de o astfel de carcasa de protectie a luminilor ai mai multe variante la dispozitie pentru a realiza acest lucru.
Dar inainte de a oferi aceste variante am sa-ti spun atat tie cat si celor care citesc acest post ca am confectionat astfel de carcase pentru toate lampile din instalatia de lumini confectionata de mine, respectand dimensiunile din schema de lumini expusa de SAD.

Deci, daca lucrezi acasa ar fi necesar sa apelezi la un amic, prieten, priceput.Ai nevoie de o coala de tabla de aluminiu(pret 50 RON /coala).
Apoi aceasta se aduce la forma dorita de tine, se decupeaza in regiunea de prindere si de trecere a cablurilor, apoi se confectioneaza 2 capace, pentru partile laterale.

Imagine


Eu am realizat ceva cat se poate de profesional, insa ...pentru cineva fara pretentii....nu cred ca a indoi o bucata de tabla e dificil...e chestie de estetic, design si functionalitate.

Dupa cum se poate observa din imagine, am atasat aceasta carcasa de o comoda, special conceputa la un atelier de mobila.Cu o degajare in partea frontala pentru asezarea sistemului.Si cu 2 dulapioare in partea opusa carcasei, pentru ca modelul sa-si tina lenjerie, toys sau alte chetii personale.


Si cea de a doua varianta propusa ar fi sa apelezi da un meserias, caruia sa-i ceri confectionarea acestei carcase, dupa o schema facuta de tine, anterior, pe baza modelului prezentat de mine in photo.

Desigur ca aceasta carcasa are marimea variabila in functie de lampile folosite.Eu am spus ca folosesc lampi de 36W in numar de 3.Dar pentru lampile din partea superioara a canapelei folosesc lampi de 56W cu lungimea de 1,5 m, deci e o carcasa mai mare.
Lampile de 36W au lungimea de 1,2 m.
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Mesajde delishia20 » 08 Ian 2007, 14:04

buna dorian,
merci mult pt sfaturile si explicatiile ce mi le-ai dat, esti un dragut:)
eu lucrez de acasa, si pina acum , n-am folosit decit un lampadar cu un bec de 40 w si unul de 100w(acesta fiind orientat inspre tavan) deci cred ca-ti poti imagina ce varza arata la mine studioul.
azi trebuie sa caut echipamentul de iluminat si pina seara sper sa reusesc sa-l si instalez.tu cum ai procedat ca sa sustii neoanele de deasupra patului?asta o sa-mi dea bataie de cap, pt ca n-am masina de gaurit peretii...
am vazut deasemenea in poza ta dar si in altele, o cutie neagra intre camcorder si trepied.ce este si la ce foloseste?eu n-am asa ceva. camera mea este direct pe trepied,si din ea pornesc 3 cabluri, cel de alimentare, cel firewire care este conectat la placa de captura si cel svideo care este conectat la tunerul winfast 2000xp.AM UITAT CEVA?
merci mult pt rabdarea de a citi mesajul meu si pentru toate raspunsurile,apreziez enorm acest gest!merci mult!
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Mesajde Dorian » 13 Ian 2007, 16:30

delishia20 scrie:tu cum ai procedat ca sa sustii neoanele de deasupra patului?asta o sa-mi dea bataie de cap, pt ca n-am masina de gaurit peretii...



Scuze pentru intarzierea cu care vine acest raspuns.
As fi bucuros sa aud ca deja calitatea imaginii tale s-a imbunatatit substantial odata cu folosirea noilor lumini.
O alta modalitate de a suspenda corpurile de lumini deasupra patului, este aceea pe suporti, care desigur ca trebuie confectionati si ei.Ce sa zic....se poate improviza...dar sincer acum nu am alta idee cum poti sa suspenzi corpuri de iluminat, la o inaltime standard, decat in cele doua moduri expuse.

delishia20 scrie:Am vazut deasemenea in poza ta dar si in altele, o cutie neagra intre camcorder si trepied.ce este si la ce foloseste?


S-a discutat destul de mult pe forum despre utilitatea si eficienta unui PAN/TILT.
Practic cu un astfel de dispozitiv, modelul, poate sa directioneze camcorderul spre ce zona a corpului doreste, desigur in limita data de cele doua motorashe ale Pan/Tilt Head.
Desigur ca, un asemenea dispozitiv poate veni in diverse forme comerciale, de la camera cu pan/tilt incorporat(vezi Sony EVI), pana la acest model cu telecomanda pe fir.
Dar mare atentie.
Aceste pan/tilt-uri sunt foarte utilizate deci e neaparat necesar sa fie un dispozitiv robust.

Deci misterul a fost dezlegat.

Multa bafta in tot ceea ce faci.
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Mesajde everest_4u » 13 Ian 2007, 21:06

Aceste pan/tilt-uri sunt foarte utilizate deci e neaparat necesar sa fie un dispozitiv robust.

dorian...lamurestema si pe mine..te intreb pe tine pt ca tu deja il folosesti
eu as opta pt asa ceva:
http://cgi.ebay.com/120-Remote-Electric ... dZViewItem

si asta doar pt faptul ca telecomanda lui nu este pe fir ...cel putin mie mi se pare mai convenabila solutia asta.
banuiesc ca tu folosesti un bescor 101? sau un prinz?
acum te intreb si eu ca omul...ce folosesti tu este mai bun decit alegerea mea?
nu de alta dar nici bescor si nici prinz nu se vind cu adaptor de priza...tr sa le folosesti cu bateri sau sa cumperi adaptorul separat..plus ca tr sa-ti mai ei si una bucata cablu prelungitor pt telecomanda(cel putin pt mine e musai)
intreb pt ca sincer nu stiu daca alegerea mea este cea corecta
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